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i was not trying to say jesus looked like an indian but rather acted the way we should all act.

RUSSELL MEANS IS NOT ANTI-CHRISTIAN. NOW, WHY DOES JESUS GET ALL

THE P.R THESE DAYS? WHEN THERE HAS BEEN MANY TEACHERS IN EVERY LAND

OF THIS MOTHER EARTH. WHAT, NO WOMEN TEACHERS? SOMETHING IS VERY WRONG.

AS ROLLING THUNDER SAID," JESUS WAS OF THIS LAND, HE WAS REBORN OVER THERE.

BUT HE WAS A FOOLISH MAN. HE GOT INVOLVED WITH EVIL PEOPLE".

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i only know of a few teachers, so out of ignorance i cannot say who they all are.

nor was i trying to say that Mr Means was anti christian. (if your post was directed at me that is)

Russell Means is a wise elder. His words for the most part are not really up for debate. In fact most are true, and well understood. He has not "beef" if you will with the Judeo-Christian faiths. However he has a problem, and most of us wise Indians/(others) have a problem with "clout". The Christian church is one of the strongest forces of manipulation, and sources of conmen on the planet. Its institutions manipulate billions to commit heinous crimes, or ignorant. We are not in conflict with the church and most of its teachings. However I myself am in conflict with the nature of the church. How it breaks down the individual. How it works with corporate dynasties such as the Rockefellers, the Du Ponts, and none other than the Rothschilds. The Church, Synagogue, and the Mosque are all crooked organizations destroying lives and trying rule every corner of the Earth, and every people of those corners. We wise ones are not fooled by Armageddon scenarios and hell scare tactics. In fact most who know grow weary of the church (regardless of denomination it is crooked) and its antics. Means is not anti-church he is anti-hypocrisy and corruption. People are tired of being puppets of the bankers, the Pope (John Hagee (TBN included), and Orthodox leaders), people grow weary of being controlled by DC. And most definitely people don’t want a supreme leader over the world. Don’t believe they are connected go investigate for your self. The true spiritual path is to find your own. Not to worship a flam man who has help to create international banking financial empires. Fools beware we see you, and we know who you are.

I agree whole heartedly. Organized religion is a sham anymore. It controls, manipulates and herds its followers into droves to be driven under the lash.

Sad thing is, they seem to have lost touch with the basics of what Jesus told them.

I wont go to church anymore, nature and all around me is sacred. When i smudge i know the sacred smoke is being carried aloft for the creator to hear me. I watch for signs afterwards that tell me how my prayer was received.

Since i went back to the red path, my inner peace has increased 100 fold!! I can still love my brothers and sisters (Mitakuye Oyasin) and do good as Jesus taught, and still fulfill what the creator wants me to do.

I know now that the path i must walk is a holy one. All that the creator has given me must be given freely. EVEN to the smallest of things like mending a scraped knee on a child with a bandaid. I cannot and will not charge for the gift i was freely given.

I can lend a hand to the Republic of Lakotah in both spiritual healing as well as physical. My artwork can help out as well. ALL of these things i was given, now i have a way to give back:)

Jesus im sure would approve:)

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well i feel like you are missing my point but that is okay.

the teachings of jesus is one thing...the views of christianity are another. Man got ahold of the bible and re-wrote it to serve him and his purposes. Why else do you think there are so many versions of it?

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OHH!!! Okay now i see what you are getting at...my bad for not catching onto it sooner:)

forgive me brother:)

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When you mix politics with the Great Spirit.Then you have confusion.It is all a mystery,and all have been scrambling to figure it out for a long time.Maybe for their own fame and fortune.I think it is time to see the Truth.Religion is just what it is,from man.The Great Spirit is above all mans Religion.

Angel I agree with what you said about the mixing of politics and religion , it just will not work, it combined with money and also the fact that throughout the ages there has always been the "rich" who have so much money and nothing else to do but to amuse themselves by imposing their will upon common people by buying armies (blackwater) is todays elite army.From ancient kings and queens nothing has changed.What has changed is here in this country the one civilization that didn't go to war over religion or resources for profit was damn near exterminated and still is an ongoing battle with the people struggling just to maintain their language let alone to have enough elders (and Families) to experience why we are here on Grandmother Earth.Sure there were battles fought over hunting ground but but not for the purpose of genocide which seems to be a popular trend brought here by the europeans.To me true religion is many things but one of importance is watching the sun end another day and the moon bring another night and just to Feel Thoughts that can never be put into words,some include to feel Pain, You said that The Great Spirit is Mans Religion ,it actually is not I have endured through my life both emotional and physical pain but I have been told that unless you go through natural childbirth a man can never know true pain. I believe love and Religion should be combined, therefore the bond between woman and child is one of the reverances of what a great part of religion is about.So it seems to me Matriarchy is a deeper part of the structure of any given society.I see and FEEL what has been done in the past and what is happening now here and around the world and it brings tears to my eyes.I have been told by many "that I carry the weight of the world on my shoulders"Maybe if all could realize that the divide and conquer stratedgy is being used against us all and to become Families and Tribes again we would discover Religion does not come from books it comes from Within .I could write a book here but these are just some thoughts of mine from reading this topic.

I agree ancientmirrors,i thought i said was man and his religion,is oh so much different.When it comes to the Great Spirit i know.Yes it would be so good if all could understand the Great Spirit,instead of mans religion.Any way there is so much more than there way or the high way. That is what they teach.The "Creator" wants all to know the Truth. Hope i make some sense.Peace,smiles,sunshine.